Matthew Garrett ([personal profile] mjg59) wrote 2012-11-06 01:11 pm (UTC)

Re: My overall take on the discussion

Obviously saying some reports are false means saying that the women in question are not actually rape victims, not that rape victims are lying.

Say the actual number of false accusations is between 2% and 8% (the low and high end of any vaguely reasonably performed studies, with the 8% being towards the unreasonably performed studies end of that scale). If you then claim that between 9% and 50% of accusations are false, you're saying that some people who were actually raped were not actually raped.

This post contains among others the "rape was impossible if both people were drunk enough" claim, which is fairly easy to verify to be false

So if both Alice and Bob were drunk, there's no rape that has taken place,
in either direction
. Yeah, easily verified to be false.

In my opinion it's completely ridiculous to take it to the level where no negative comments whatsoever are allowed about someone if he or she has become the victim of a crime.

You're welcome to your opinion, but it sounds like you're admitting that Ted places some of the blame on the victim.

I think it's quite valid to question whether all the cases where the "victim" did not herself consider it a rape, and did not consider herself to have suffered significant harm, should be classified as "rape"

Could you please read what you're replying to? The 46% figure is not limited to the 73% who didn't self-classify their attack as rape. It includes women who claimed they were raped, Ted just thinks that they weren't.

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