I think my above post already adequately explained why it's quite a stretch to go from linking to a document which mentions such numbers, even if you believe them to be false, to "called rape victims liars".
Some proportion of women have been raped. Some much smaller proportion make false rape claims. If you believe that the number of false rape claims is larger than the actual number of false rape claims then you are saying that some of those actual victims are lying. Ted endorses an article that explicitly makes this claim.
So Ted was NOT saying "ALL cases where both people are drunk are not rape"
Actually, yes, he is saying that. He says that if you're too drunk to know that the other party can't provide consent, it can't be rape. He says it very clearly.
He was willing to criticize someone even if they are a victim.
(ie, yes, Ted places blame on the victim)
I didn't look up what exactly you're referring to here.
You didn't read what you were replying to? Strong work. Full marks.
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Re: My overall take on the discussion
Date: 2012-11-06 08:59 pm (UTC)Some proportion of women have been raped. Some much smaller proportion make false rape claims. If you believe that the number of false rape claims is larger than the actual number of false rape claims then you are saying that some of those actual victims are lying. Ted endorses an article that explicitly makes this claim.
Actually, yes, he is saying that. He says that if you're too drunk to know that the other party can't provide consent, it can't be rape. He says it very clearly.
(ie, yes, Ted places blame on the victim)
You didn't read what you were replying to? Strong work. Full marks.